Another Perspective on Antifa: Good or Bad?

Antifa Violence Is Ethical? This Author Explains Why – NBC News

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Another Perspective on Antifa: Good or Bad?

This video debate, linked to this article hosted by Chuck Todd on MTP Daily on MSNBC, gives a totally different perspective on the violence that occurred in Berkeley, on August 27, 2017. As you may know, either from watching the news or reading my last blog post, there was a violent confrontation between members of Antifa and supporters of Donald Trump.

In my previous post, I condemned Antifa for making those of us on the Left who are opposed to Donald Trump and his supporters, look bad. At that time, I have had a chance to rethink my position and now I am not condemning Antifa as bad as I did then. I have had a chance to rethink my position since that time, and in some ways, I can now give some support to Antifa. However, I still maintain that Antifa overreacted to a small number of Trump supporters and members of the alt-right, and used violent tactics that may not have been entirely necessary in this case.

I also concede that there are times when it may be necessary for Antifa and other groups opposed to Donald Trump and his supporters, to use force against force. This is true especially if members of the alt-right show up to a demonstration armed with rifles and sidearms, as they have many times in the past, including Charlottesville.

There may be times when it is necessary for Antifa to use violence against violence. I just argue that the violence that happened in Berkeley on August 27 wasn’t really necessary or called for.

The Left Must Always Oppose White Supremacists And Fascists

White supremacists and fascists must not be allowed to go unchecked by not only the Left, but society as a whole.

The Largest Fascist Rally in Recent Memory Is Expected This Week — Can the Left Unite Against It?

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The Left Must Always Oppose White Supremacists and Fascists

White supremacists and fascists must not be allowed to go unchecked by not only the Left but society . These peddlers of hatred and racism must be stopped, by any means necessary. Even though I always embrace the concept of nonviolent resistance, it has gotten to the point where these people are so out of control that the time has come to resist them, even if it means violence.

After all, have they ever been afraid to use the tools of fear and intimidation against others, usually helpless minorities? No, they have not. And neither should we.

On August 12, many white supremacists and fascists I plan on having what they call “Unite The Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia. The reason that Charlottesville, VA was chosen for the site of this rally is not to be because the city recently ruled that a statue of Confederate commander Robert E Lee was to be removed from a public park. This apparently set the wheels of racism in motion.

Even though some faith-based organizations have pledged to show resistance, as well as Black Lives Matter, no large-scale counter demonstration has been planned by most members of the Left. To me, this is a colossal mistake. By not responding to these white supremacists, we are conceding the field; something which leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I learned a long time ago that these types of hate groups cannot or should not be ignored.

As an answer to this lack of large-scale response, most leaders of the Left seem to make excuses instead of engaging in a real, meaningful action. They always seem to give the reasons (or better yet, excuse) that their involvement will only draw more attention to these groups and that if you leave them alone, they will go away. This is naïve bullshit!

At some point, the Left needs to realize that even though nonviolence is an excellent practice to use when changing government policies, or protesting some type of government action that is deemed to be unjust when dealing with groups whose entire existence is based on hatred of others, sometimes violence may be necessary and justified.

Don’t get me wrong, because I’m not saying that we should just shoot these people down the streets because that is the furthest thing from my mind. However, showing up in force, possibly ready to do battle if necessary, is probably a good idea even though I grant it would be risky.

The Left, and others, should realize that these people will not just go away. This is particularly true because they have become emboldened by the rhetoric of Donald Trump. They have come to think that because the President of the United States engages in hate speech and even hate action, it’s perfectly okay for them to express themselves, no matter how offensive it may be.

It is a past time the Left, and other people, stop laying down for these people. They are nothing less than an offensive blight on this entire country and should be dealt with effectively. If “effectively” means hurting some of these people, then so be it.

 

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Internet Trolls: Bringing Dissension and Racism to Cyberspace

According to the Urban Dictionary, the definition of Internet trolling is, “the act of making a response for no other reason than to gain attention.

“The act of making a response for no other reason than to gain attention. It is commonly displayed by insecure, or narcissistic people. Even if the remark is rude, or starts an argument, the person trolling gains the social interaction that they wanted.”

Internet Trolls: Bringing Dissension and Racism to Cyberspace

According to the Urban Dictionary, the definition of Internet trolling is, “The act of making a response for no other reason than to gain attention. It is commonly displayed by insecure, or narcissistic people. Even if the remark is rude, or starts an argument, the person trolling gains the social interaction that they wanted.”

My personal definition of Internet trolling is, cruising various websites and causing as much dissension, racism, and being as much of a racist bastard as possible.  I say this because this is the primary type of Internet trolling that I meet 5while surfing the Web.  Some of these Internet trolls be described as nothing less than toxic in the “commentary.”

I would have to say that the worst Internet trolls are the right-wing trolls.  Some of these people are disgusting, not only in their viewpoint but the way they deliver it.  Over the past few years, I have seen some of the ugliest rhetoric that I have ever seen.  Much of it, especially from the ultra-right, is downright hateful and racist, primarily being directed President Barack Obama, the first African-American president in American history.

In this ultra-right wing commentary, I have seen the “N-word” used more often than I have in my entire life.  If one didn’t know better, you would think that the KKK had taken over the Internet.  This type of ugly racist rhetoric accomplishes absolutely nothing other than to make people very uncomfortable, to the point that many rational people who wish to engage in some discussion would rather leave than to deal with this inexcusable behavior.  And these only leaves open the various comment sections of most websites open for these right-wing racists to dominate the entire space.

internet trollingPersonally, my way of dealing with these right-wing trolls is to try arguing with them and trying to make some sensible points; something which becomes almost impossible, most of the time.  I should know better than to try arguing with them because by doing so, I violate an unwritten rule about dealing with Internet trolls.  This unwritten rule is, “don’t feed the trolls.”

Even though I know this rule is probably the best solution about how to deal with these trolls, I still can’t seem to help myself from responding because what these trolls are saying is so disgusting and goes against everything I believe in.

 

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The Alt-Right: Who Are They?

On the political scene, there seems to be what is conceived as a “new group” that has arisen to take part in the political process in the United States.

The Alt-Right: Who Are They?

altright On the political scene, there seems to be a “new group” that has arisen to take part in the political process in the United States. They are the Alternative Right, also known as the “Alt-Right.” In actuality, these people have been around for a long time, although they preferred to be mostly unseen.

Members of the Alt-Right movement believe that the conservative movement in this country doesn’t go far enough to maintain “traditional values,” or to further the conservative agenda in the most efficient way. Many members of the normal conservative movement in the United States are afraid of members of the Alt-Right. They not only think that this movement is far too radical in its position, but discredits the entire conservative movement because many members of the Alt-Right movement believe that it’s okay to further its agenda by any means necessary. Often, these means include violence against those who disagree with their position, including other members of the conservative movement. They are often viewed as “loose cannons” to regular conservatives.

the-alt-right-is-not-racistThe Alt-Right espouses a belief system that is considered to be offensive by most people, mostly because of its nature. The Alt-Right is made up of white supremacists, or as they now seem to prefer to be known as “white nationalist.” This term is three just another buzzword for racist.  The ranks include such groups as, The Aryan Nation, the Ku Klux Klan, and skinheads.

Formerly, the Alt-Right preferred to remain in the shadows because of their activities, and that they were cowards about bringing their offensive belief system out into the public eye. Also, even within this movement, they were never confident about their numbers. Often, members of a movement of this type only feel empowered when they know that there are others who will defend their belief system. The only feels strength in numbers because they are too cowardly to stand alone.

However, with the election of Donald Trump, the members of the Alt-Right hand seemingly come out of the woodwork, mostly because a primary candidate has used their brand of hate speech in a presidential election. These members of the Alt-Right, or as I prefer to call them, bigots have felt free to come out and preach their hateful doctrine of racism because of a major political candidate, Donald Trump has encapsulated in his rhetoric something that they relate to; racism, sexism, Islamaphobia, Xenophobia, and anti-Semitism. These bigoted positions were mainstays of the entire Trump campaign.

Steve BannonEven though he doesn’t acknowledge it, Donald Trump has given these people a type of power they haven’t had in recent years. Not only does he refuse to acknowledge that he has given them free license to come out into the open, but he refuses to distance himself from them. He has even brought a prominent member of the Alt-Right into his cabinet as his chief of staff, the former editor of Breitbart, Steve Bannon.

Breitbart News seems to be the primary outlet for members of the Alt-Right to express themselves and spread their message of hatred and racism. This message is the main reason that the appointment of Steve Bannon to a position where he will have the ear of the president is controversial but dangerous. The Alt-Right also has a propensity for using the Internet for spreading its ugly word, particularly through the use of trolling and spreading hateful “memes.”

President-elect Donald Trump, if he is half as smart as he thinks, will put as much distance between himself and the Alt-Right as he can. So far, he hasn’t done that or even indicated that he has any intention of doing so.

 

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